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    A type of anti-science, perhaps?


    Just been looking up a few articles and came across this. Call me old fashioned but whilst I think it is good to push the boundaries……

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    Psychokinesis research is encountering difficulties in replicating its findings. Centuries before psychokinesis phenomena such as levitation or moving objects were well known. Today anomalous phenomena seem to be reduced to rare and weak effects in stochastic processes. While experimental and analysis methods became more and more professional in the last decades, researchers complain about a loss of effect size and evidence. The "Model of Pragmatic Information" (MPI) by Walter von Lucadou predicts a change or decline of effect size. According to MPI this is necessary because otherwise a paranormal experiment could be used for information transfer which might be an intervention paradox. In elaborating further theoretic implications and consequences of the MPI we show that we finally reach a point where the outcome of a given PK experiment can not be distinguished from random results. Therefore, we should abandon proof-oriented research. All we can find are different degrees of evidence.

    Another interpretation is that increasing skepticism for itself might be the reason for the erosion of evidence. The author’s earlier analysis of Fourmilab Retro-PK data with respect to lunar phase yielded a z-value of 3.24 for the full moon interval. A replication yielded a z-value of -2.49 for the same interval. Some evidence is given that this effect overturn (change of sign) depends not only on the predictions of the MPI but on believing and disbelieving in paranormal phenomena. Other parapsychologists noticed that their experimental results often corresponded to their own belief or disbelief in paranormal phenomena. This seems to be more than just a coincidence or the result of single experiences, it might be part of the nature of psychokinesis phenomena itself. Such experiences are the result of interactions between one’s mind with the physical world, analysed by an experimenter. In the classical scientific view the experimenter is a neutral observer of the experiment without any influence on the result. This view has to be corrected. The experimenter has also expectations, fears and hopes in his mind which could influence the outcome of a PK experiment. He also belongs, with respect to MPI, to the psi agents of a PK experiment. More than in any other scientific discipline the result of an experiment depends on the experimenters belief or disbelief in paranormal phenomena. Both, belief and disbelief, are self-referential, they act as self-fulfilling prophecies and tend to create their own evidence which confirms the expectations of the paranormal-believing experimenter like the skeptic experimenter. Beside the parameter of Lucadou’s new experimental paradigm it is necessary to document the experimenter’s belief in paranormal phenomena and to evaluate its effect and its outcome. The best conditions for growing evidence might be to use test subjects and experimenters who do not doubt in the existence of psi. The demand of skeptics to ban parapsychology from the realm of science have to be rejected. It is a science with its own special research conditions.
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    Re: A type of anti-science, perhaps?

    Good find - i love the bit about it struggling to replicate its own effects.....no shit
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    Re: A type of anti-science, perhaps?

    So to sum up;
    • [#] We've been unable to find anything of significance
      [#] Some people did find stuff, they're Bleevers
      [#] Quantum
      [#] We need more Bleevers running experiments
      [#] Grrrr - those nasty Skeptics!
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    Re: A type of anti-science, perhaps?

    Of course. Didn't you know that "proof-oriented research" is just a facet of the patriarchal establishment, and should be replaced by subjectivist opinion-based models of reality?

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    Re: A type of anti-science, perhaps?

    Quote Originally Posted by Araneus
    Of course. Didn't you know that "proof-oriented research" is just a facet of the patriarchal establishment, and should be replaced by subjectivist opinion-based models of reality?
    it's postmoderism gone mad!
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    Re: A type of anti-science, perhaps?

    Quote Originally Posted by vbloke
    it's postmoderism gone mad!
    What exactly do you mean "gone" mad? Are you suggesting that there is a form of postmodernism which is not mad?

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    Re: A type of anti-science, perhaps?

    Quote Originally Posted by Araneus
    Quote Originally Posted by vbloke
    it's postmoderism gone mad!
    What exactly do you mean "gone" mad? Are you suggesting that there is a form of postmodernism which is not mad?
    my point of view is as valid as yours
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    Re: A type of anti-science, perhaps?

    Good post Median.

    The type of thinking displayed there is why I can't take parapsychology seriously. For example, they're interpreting the experimenter effect as meaning that one needs to believe in psi in order to obtain results in experiments!

    And of course, there's no point in skeptics doing this research as they won't get positive results.

    I love interpretations like 'psi-missing' - if you don't get the result you want reinterpret the data until you do.

    Or if someone scores an overall average but they score heavily at the start of the test and poorly towards the end it's down to motivation effects - not statistical variance.

    It's hardly surprising that they find what they're looking for.
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